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2018-09-28 09:54:27 To be honest, I was also surprised, because in America you can not even listen to music for free, movies can not be found without ads, without registration and without subscription, and here is training. I also went there and thought that it was impossible.

@ But it turned out that all this is realistic, so I just advise you to believe in yourself and try yourself in admission to the world's coolest school. Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:27 You say it was great. And I thought you were loaded there.

We were loaded to a certain extent. If one of the guys who studied with me there, they will hear that I say that they do not ship there, they will laugh at me, because ...

Was it difficult for them?

It was hard for them, they worked 24 on 7, and I did not do anything (laughs).

I raised the statistics, it turns out, of all cadets only 11% of the girl.

I'm surprised that they are 11%. Because there really is no girls at all.

How difficult is it for a girl to be at school "42"?

It's hard to be a girl at all, in the first place. Being a girl among programmers is hard, secondly. Thirdly, it's hard to be a girl programmer and try to learn the programming itself. Fourth, being a programming girl and trying to learn programming herself and living with three other girls is super-heavy.

@. You have to be some kind of super girl to deal with all this (laughs).

I think it's a school for courageous people. It must be understood that this is not a university, no one will teach you, and it is entirely your responsibility. And you can not provide any diplomas, certificates and you will look for a job relying only on your knowledge.

This is even harder, because companies such as Google, Facebook, your resumes are not even people watching, but cars. If there are no indicators, then they do not even consider you. Therefore, it is for those who are confident in themselves and are confident that they will be able to independently learn and apply this knowledge.

You certainly had some difficult moments, compressed deadlines, when you did not have time to finish the task. How did you cope with stress?

There was a project that I started doing an hour before deadline. On this project in fact given for two or three days, I accidentally deleted it an hour before delivery. I wanted to delete something else. Here I was disturbed by the speed of typing, it's fast to type - it's cool, of course, but you can also delete something. You do not know how I felt. I had real stress. I already wanted to go out, go to the hostel to sleep, because I thought I would not have time to do it.

But then I took myself in hand, breathed in the fresh air, calmed down and went back to do this project. For an hour I, of course, did not finish it completely, but nevertheless I did not score zero. I wrote about what I had left from memory. It was with bugs, but I decided to pass it all the same.

At the moment when it left, my hands dropped, very emotionally reacted to it. I do not know what other people are doing at such moments, but I take a deep breath-out and it helps to pull myself together. We have a cable car there, it's nice to walk there.

Have you seen any cool people?

I saw Mark Zuckerberg, but not at school, but at the office. I went to the Facebook office and asked a girl from Yahoo to introduce me to someone from Facebook. A guy named Alex gave me a brief instruction, because he was busy. I was glad to spend at least an hour there and see with my own eyes.

We passed the glass conference hall, and I looked there, and there sits Mark Zuckerberg. I asked Alex: "Is this Mark Zuckerberg?", And he says: "Forgive me, pass by, we go on." I at that moment, it turns out, froze and stopped.

Then he told me that you can not do this. There is always a lot of protection around him, and if you start acting strangely, you can be kicked out. And I just went on, and inside the storm of emotions. In general, it was cool.

And who else is steeper than him?

Who can be cooler than him (laughs)? Only if Ilon Mask, but I did not see him.

Ilon Mask once went to school "42" and wrote on Twitter, something like "Beware, universes."

Did he write like this? That's cool. Few people know about the school "42", the harder it is to compete when Stanford is near. The whole world knows about Stanford, but few know about the school "42". In Europe, it is even more popular, but in America there. People somehow are skeptical about all this, because it's free. Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:27 But you can always refuse?

It is better not to give up. Simply if you do not get it right away, you can go later. For example, one of the streams began on September 10, there are still kits with the beginning of classes on October 24 and November 26.

Do you have any information, how many guys came from your "pool" stream?

I do not have exact data on what I have received.

@ We were 600 people registered at the beginning of the "pool", but only 150 people have completed their studies.

I think that a smaller part has been enrolled in the basic program of the school.

Concerning other schools. In Paris, a very strict selection. We had guys who came from Paris to America to go to an American school. Not even because it is difficult, but because there are no places. At them all free slots are hammered in a year forward.

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Personal impressions

What did you like most about school?

Guys there realize the very freedom. They sometimes complain that there is a team of people who are responsible for everything, and sometimes they want to ask something, but they do not give a specific answer, and it sometimes angers the guys.

Because it could save time, but at the same time they understand that this school is created for that, that it gives you freedom of choice, but no direct answers to your questions. You must find them yourself. And this is what this school teaches you. Just looking for answers yourself.

When you learn to program, you have the choice to ask your neighbor, if not, google or find someone who has already done this job, ask to explain. You somehow find ways to understand this. Because you can not just take it and copy it until you understand. Because two people will start to check you. Everything is very honest, and there is no such thing as to put an estimate on friendship.

And what did not you like?

Food. In general, it is very difficult for me in America to eat. Americans are so used to eating something incomprehensible that either a cherry is plastic, but they eat it. There's no particularly proper food. I am very strong in the first week and then decided to control it.

I did not drink anything fizzy, only water. Still uncomfortable to live four girls in the same room with one shower. But it was good in terms of language. I have study in English in English, and I did not know the various everyday words. For example, a hanger or a vacuum cleaner, you need to quickly say, but you do not know, but you need to explain yourself. I never lived with English-speaking people.

Will you go there, study there all three years and immediately go back?

I'll be back, but not after three years. I need to learn, work and gain experience. I think that it will not be enough to return to Kazakhstan only with knowledge. And I do not want to leave far from family and parents, and they certainly do not want to move.

And if the parents would like to move, would you return?

I'm not the kind of person who is eager to move to another country, and I do not have such that I'm just a patriot and I will stay in Kazakhstan until the end. For me, the main thing is my family, my parents. I can not go far from the family and always miss them. So I just want to work.

You have to earn a lot to fly often.

Yes, at school you do not earn. But I'm going there not only to study, I will work in parallel with BeInTech Ventures. This is a division of the international construction holding BI Group. We are engaged in the development of corporate innovations in the holding company, cooperating with start-ups.

And how does the school relate to this?

Fine. The main thing is to be able to close tasks and projects.

Why did you delete your Instagram account?

I deleted it temporarily. I did not write anything there, because I did not have time. It was too cool there (laughs).

Is it just temporary?

Yes, it is temporary. In order not to be distracted. Yes, I do not have WhatsApp, no Instagram, nothing. Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:26 So, you say that in the laboratory you are not allowed to sleep and put things on the table, so somewhere there are people who constantly go and watch this?

Yes. They are cadets who are volunteers, they do not go all the time, but from time to time they look and help with questions, if help with some tasks, they should see how many hours you were sitting at the computer, this is also an important factor, since if people have tried very long, they can fix it.

They are called prefects, they are volunteers-cadets, who are there to monitor everything. All this takes place in a game form, they always compete among themselves.

And there they clap all the time, for any occasion. I like to sleep and sometimes wake up late, while all three of my neighbors go to the lab. I was always the last, I had dinner, and only then I went. Somehow she came to the laboratory, someone says "Oh, well done, Naz!" And started to clap, then all the others joined. When I asked them what had happened, they said that this time I just came early (laughs).

Did you say that you can take a day off? What is the system there?

There is no system. I did my own time off. Due to the fact that I already had experience, it was a little easier for me. So I could afford to sleep longer, rest. And since people there were engaged in 24 to 7. If we were on the same level, they would simply break through. They are so charged people, which I have not met before.

And were there people who are close to the age limit of 45 years?

Yes, there were. I know exactly one forty-year-old.

I ask this because interviews will be read by people older than you who have families, and that they do not think that the school is only for the young.

There were even people with children. I saw both cases - when the wife is studying, and the husband and children are leaving, or the husband is studying, and the wife and children are leaving. They are also provided with a hostel, but they do not want to live there. They probably live somewhere nearby and go to school only to study.

The school hosts events, workshops from various companies, students and themselves like to organize various entertainments. Basically, these events are not for "poolers", but for those who are already studying there. Therefore, I can not say with certainty what is there and how. But in the end for us staged a cool barbecue party.

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Accelerator startups in the school "42"

And I'll tell you about one thing that very few people know about. It's called Rabbit Cloud. This is such an accelerator for startups. And the whole joke is that not only does the school give a free hostel, free training, food at very low prices, so it also gives access to the Rabbit Cloud.

You come to Rabbit Cloud and say that you have an idea for a startup. They can accept or reject it. But usually those who are "accepted", they can sponsor.

If, for example, your project is associated with PR, they buy everything for you at your own expense and do not take anything into the share and in return. If you need to take any exams all the time to stay in the hostel, then if you pass the Rabbit Cloud, then you are released from these lessons, and you are only engaged in your start-up and can live for free.

All the student's privileges remain, but only you work on your startup and in parallel can apply to other accelerators.

And from when can you submit to Rabbit Cloud?

There's no exact time and rules. I know the guys who submitted from the seventh level. As long as you do not pass to this level, it is unlikely that you will have any deep knowledge. After all, there are people who came with zero knowledge. In the "pool" they look at how much you teach. Therefore, there you can and not be a programmer.

Life after the "pool" "42"

What happens after the "pool"?

Somewhere in a week they send letters to everyone who successfully passed the "pool" and entered the school "42". Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:26 The algorithm can also not miss, if you have an ugly code written. There are a lot of rules on how to declare variables, where they need to be put, to declare. A lot of such rules, and all of them must be followed, 25 lines in one function, in one file a maximum of five functions and others.

And these rules are given at admission or are they somewhere in the open access?

All the rules are given in the school, but it seems to me that they can be found on the Internet, just at school everything is automated, and you can check it right away.

So you can check before sending?

The guys who are studying there have written a checker who himself checks everything according to all the rules. The guys just wrote this program themselves, there's a lot of everything that they write for the school, and everything slowly appears. Since the laboratory is very large, there is a separate program where you can simply enter the ID of the person you are looking for, and it shows in what place and for what computer it is sitting.

Then the question of people who were in the "pool", how closely you interacted?

They also all came from somewhere, and when you are left alone in the small town of Fremont in the middle of America, these people become your family and friends. I had three neighbors, we lived and studied together. And the fact that you are trying to go to school together is very close.

With other students who have already gone to school, they are called cadets, we also had good contact, they tried to help us and cheer us up. We had a cinema in the hostel, a room for tennis, there is a gym and a lot more.

Nearby there is nothing, only the Tesla plant, to the shops go and go, so we were always together. They were interested to know that I was from Kazakhstan, and at the end of the "pool" they already knew the Kazakh words "Salem, Kazakhs, zhasy, rahmet", necessarily "Kayyrly Ton", "thank you very much" - some taught basic words in Russian.

They asked about Kazakhstan, where Almaty is located, which Astana. I showed them pictures, they liked it very much. It seems that they did not know anything about Kazakhstan. And I was also interested in learning about other people.

And what a classic day in the "pool"?

At 8:42 the day begins, at which time new tasks are opened. You have access to them, and accordingly, there are a couple of videos to them. You must make them and send them until the next day until 11:42. But the next day at 8:42 the following tasks are already coming.

And so every day, and on weekends the same. On weekends there are single and group projects. On Fridays, the exam. At 11:42, everyone claps one another, it's such a tradition when surrendering, sometimes I did not have time to pass the assignment and heard someone clapping.

There are a lot of interesting things. For example, you can not leave drinks or food where there are computers. If you left, then you leave the laboratory for three hours.

In the "pool" this time is very precious, and everyone asked for any rule other than three hours outside: someone forty-two times pressed, despite the fact that there were girls there, and there were also various funny tasks. Sometimes asked to learn the Chinese phrase and loudly tell it to everyone.

You have lunch from 11:00 to 14:00, you can go to the dining room at any time, and from 16:30 to 18:30 there's dinner, that's all. Then you sit, work, then sleep - and so every day.

The laboratory works round the clock, right?

Yes, some guys sit all day without days off. In this laboratory is not allowed to sleep.

How many computers are on the same floor?

A thousand, but they are divided somewhere into four zones. Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:26 Then they registered on language courses, where they were given an invitation and re-applied for a visa. It was possible to go on a J1 visa for a year and a half. But you must attend courses, otherwise you can take a visa. It's three days a week for six hours, in total, eighteen hours. This is very much. But this is the only way for those who could not get a tourist visa.

I think this is a plus for those who do not know the language.

Yes, for those who do not know English, it's generally fine.

Preparation for admission

OK. For example, I applied and took a survey. What are the questions in the questionnaire, standard?

The questions are very easy. Anyone who has some logic will pass. Further in the "pool" is also not so difficult, if a person has a desire to learn. There were guys who sat for 24 hours.

It is also very important to be stress-resistant. When I was sitting on the first exam, next to the girl was crying. When a person stresses very much, he constantly brings down exams. I, too, fell, and this is normal. There are jobs that you fall on a very stupid mistake. There is a very peculiar system of evaluation, you can very well know everything, but at the same time to fill up.

Some initial resources for training. Maybe there are some sites like Glassdoor?

What is a "pool"? What is the school "42"? This is not an interview in order to find a good employee, this is a school - to learn. They want to find someone who can study there. The study is very intensive, it is very difficult. Not because they are given very difficult tasks.

Every day, tasks of complexity go on increasing, and they need to be solved in the order of the queue. The school looks at how you managed to master some material. Every week you write an exam, and they look at your progress, what you could learn. That is, they look at your progress at all, whether you were able to learn anything at all in the end.

If you quit jobs in the "pool" every day, you can still go to school if you have shown yourself well in the exam. If you zafeylili exam, but every day well solved the task, you too can pass. Because the person tried, and they look at those people who really want to learn.

There is always the opportunity to go to school. However, still depends on the competition. In other "pools", it seems to me, everything is different. In America, even in the same school there can be different selections, because it goes in different months. For example, my "pool" was the largest "pool" in the history of America. Before that, 600 people have never been in the "pool" before.

In general, everywhere differently. And while it seems to me that it's easier to go to America than to Paris, because there are so many empty places in America, they are trying to dial now, they are interested in people who really want to study. And there is no particular competition. Moreover, Americans do not believe in free education.

Until I went through and saw it all, I could not believe that somewhere in the Silicon Valley there is a school that gives free education, a free hostel, almost free food, and they can sponsor your startup. It's just from the realm of fantasy! I thought, this does not happen. That's unreal!

@ When I came, I saw a thousand iMacs there, I was afraid to even touch them. They radiated such light. I was in such euphoria, I could not at all believe that the school really exists.

In general, I was very scared, because before me from Kazakhstan in the American school there was nobody. When you go first and do not know where, what it is and in general and how everything will be, it's scary

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One day from school "42"

You said that your work is checked by other students. After that, it seems, is there an algorithm in the machine that recheck everything?

Yes, there is an algorithm that checks everything and brings down all (laughs).

Even if your task is written correctly, but according to the rules of the task you can not use any functions, you will be overwhelmed. You will be given a minus of 42 points. Open / Comment

2018-09-28 09:54:26 Enroll in the programming school "42" in Silicon Valley

Employee of the Kazakh company BeInTech Ventures Nazerke Kalidolda - about how to pass the monthly "pool" of the school "42" and successfully enter the most famous school of programming.

About school "42"
Hello, Nazerke! Tell me.

Okay. School "42" is a school without teachers and without professors. It is free, and its program is based on the delivery of projects. You start with the delivery of easy tasks, and then on increasing, and the projects become more complicated. Due to this you have gained the applicable skills in the work. After you have done the job and passed the project, you need someone to check you.

Another pupil of the school "42"?

Yes, two or three students. And to be checked, you should have glasses. Points you earn the same way - checking someone. In the end, it turns out that you are working with someone all the time. You do not choose who will check you, it is determined randomly.

Thus, throughout the school you contact almost all students. With someone you can already become friends, and with someone to be just familiar, the so-called peer-to-peer based learning or project-based learning. Due to this you are not just a programmer, but you have the opportunity to communicate, you have skills that will be very useful.

I heard that sometimes programmers are not accepted into the school, but people without experience, for example, humanities. How true is this?

Yes it's true. There were children of the humanities who scored more points than those who have been programming for a long time.

So, you, when you serve, you can choose - in Paris or in America?

They have separate sites, and yes, she chose. I chose not the nearest free date, I chose just convenient for me. I could have gone earlier, there were vacant seats.

And free places, probably, depend on how much schools are loaded?

For the summer it is very difficult - more loaded than in the spring. Because in the summer people are more free, they can go and try, but there are people who throw everything-study and work-and go.

I know the guys who left university and work and went to try. And they did not throw when they went to school, but threw them to pass at least to the "pool". Very risky guys (laughs). "Pool" is a monthly entrance program to the main school.

Why the American school, and not in Paris or Kiev?

I went to work in Silicon Valley accelerators: in Plug & Play and Runway. I had some interesting stories there every day, everything went very intensely. At first I learned a lot, and then I became friends with the guys, they took me around San Francisco.

In general, living in good nature is one of the important points for me. In this respect, Palo Alto is a good city where spruce and palm trees grow and eat. If I had an allergy in Kazakhstan, when I went out to the countryside, then I did not have it there.

Since I put my health above everything, and sometimes I took time off and went out into the wild. We went to the mountains, I saw wild animals. This is all despite the fact that this is a very developed city. I could ask my friends to tour the big companies and just get acquainted with interesting people.

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Preparation of documents

Is there accommodation during the "pool"? What other expenses are covered?

I lived in a hostel. During the "pool" they provide accommodation. You only pay a deposit of $ 42. In the end, the deposit is refunded if you normally rent out your room. You feed on the campus of the school. There, food is sold at a lower price than elsewhere. It turns out, at his own expense, only a visa, flight and money for food.

Do you need to receive a visa on your own or do they send an invitation?

No, they do not send invitations, and you need to make a visa yourself. I had a tourist visa, so I did not do it and did not bathe. I heard that many guys were denied. Open / Comment