In this episode of our podcast, we talk to Mustaffa Kamal & Ca | The Woke Salarypeople

In this episode of our podcast, we talk to Mustaffa Kamal & Calvin Seah, the founders of The Black Hole Group - a collective of lifestyle and F&B concepts.

We will ask them about what it's like starting a business with a close friend, how to maintain or balance being friends and business partners, and their journey from plucky 26-year-olds running around putting our fires in a backpackers hostel to essentially, F & B moguls.

We enjoyed our conversation with them and learnt so much.

We hope you'll enjoy this conversation too.