Penzone ExposedGR: Tell me how you started with M.C.S.O.? Why did you get into law enforcement in the first place?
WB: My father had worked there, he retired. Then I applied. He retired along time ago, I applied.
GR: Nice. And how long you been there for, at the agency?
WB: Almost 20 years.
GR: So were there for the last years of the Arpaio era, and then Penzone. About 1/2 and 1/2 sounds like, yes?
WB: Yes.
GR: You're doing this interview here to talk about some things some things that are going on inside of M.C.S.O. from a policy standpoint, being run by very poor leadership. Can you pinpoint one thing or is it a combination of a bunch of different issues adding up?