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They allege that some years ago, Penzone was cheating on his current wife, with another man's wife. And when the dude found out about the affair, he went to Penzone's house to pay him a visit and confront him. Then some detectives got involved and Penzone had the report buried. Have you heard of this at all?

WB: I heard about it. Nothing came out because he stopped it. 

GR: Okay, I was curious. Because if I have a very reliable source alleging that, and then I'm talking to you and you've heard that. That's multiple sources. The tip that came in was a direct relaying of information about the incident and buried report. Interesting.

Goal after this interview is to provide ongoing coverage until Penzone is fully exposed, because the main stream media won't cover it. We've talked about lots of stuff. What would you want to share with the reader the top 2 or 3 things that are most urgent right now? So the public is aware about it, they can start making some noise and calling their representatives. Would you say there's a couple of hot items you want to address?

WB: There's a lot of issues, but I would say the biggest one is we can't retain people. We can't effectively recruit people anymore. Penzone single handedly did this. The numbers don't lie, Gordon. I can tell you last year we hired 23 Detention Officers. None of them work here. 

GR: So 23 hires through training?

WB: 23 Detention Officers were hired, none of them work here anymore. What does that tell you? Don't even get me started with the Deputies, that's another debacle. We do police academies probably max, I want to say probably once every 4 months. At most, at one of those academies, there will be like 10 Deputies. The rest of the class will be from out of county. Literally it's all a complete disaster. We're a laughing stock.

 GR: They all left?

WB: Not one of them made it past one year.

GR: What about on the Deputy side? 

WB: Numbers for the Deputies are bad, just not that bad. That's the worst possible outcome you can have when none of them come back. In fact what they like to do on these numbers is blame it on Covid. I can tell you Gordon, Covid has nothing to do with this. Are there employees that left the office because of Covid? Yes. This was happening before Covid, writing was on the wall. People that left the agency to go else where or to do something else, I would say when someone gives two weeks notice, Covid is like 20%. And that's being nice. The other 80% is all from the office. They like to say, Covid caused all this. 

Fact is nobody wants to work for this agency. It's an F tier agency.  There's zero enforcement of the law. Nobody wants to work here because people in the public know it's an F tier agency, the benefits they offer is piss poor. There's no retirement anymore. They opted out of a 20 year retirement for both detention and sworn. They opted out of the 25 year retirement. All you get is a garbage 401k, it's an F tier retirement system that no one will be able to retire off of. And they know this, so we can't effectively recruit people anymore. This guy Penzone has singlehandedly tarnished this agency and he'll always be remembered as that Sheriff.      

GR: That leads me to a question. You talked about deaths on duty. And the prolific numbers under his reign, are you inferring that you believe there is a correlation between these untimely deaths and the lack of coverage?

WB: They weren't providing the employees with right equipment to protect themselves from Covid. They were moving people around like it was fentanyl. Literally they were just moving people around. They didn't care about anybody. They just didn't care. Do as I say, not as I do. 

GR: That was other concern a recent source had is that exact thing. That if the staffing issues aren't addressed soon that there could be another death. And there's concern with that.

WB: People are dying right and left. They're getting rid of hazard pay at the end of the month. The office is not paying out hazard pay. 

GR: That's crazy.